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John is delving into X-Men history and retcons:

John: christ

John: check out this retcon

John: Later on, Professor Charles Xavier recruits Wolverine to a new team of X-Men. Disillusioned with his Canadian intelligence work and intrigued by Xavier's offer, Logan resigns from Department H.[27] It was later revealed, however, that Professor X had wiped Logan's memories and forced him to join the X-Men after Wolverine was sent to assassinate Xavier.[28]

Snacky: what the heck? I never heard that one!

John: it's a newish retcon

Snacky: man, when did they decided that Xavier was just a dick and nothing else was good storytelling?

Snacky: I mean, I always got he was kind of flawed, and had done things he regretted, but whenever they retcon things, it's like, "Let's see who we can ruin today! Is Gambit available? Rogue? Wolverine? No? Crap, guess we gotta make Xavier suck some more then."

John: retcon: everytime xavier was eating with the x-men, he was actually eating mutant kittens

Snacky: next thing you know, it's going to be retconned that he gave them irradiated water to drink as children to cause them to become mutants, and he was just making up the X-gene all along

John: ahahahah!

Snacky: and that he's mind-controlled them all for the better parts of their lives and everything they think is free will and choice is just Xavier playing with them like they were Barbie dolls

Snacky: "Today I think I'll make Scott and Jean fall in love. Later I'll have that hairy little creature come between them. I'll kill Jean a few times and then see where we end up."

Snacky: did you know that Claremont's original plan wasn't that Logan was a mutant, it was that he actually evolved from a goddamned wolverine

John: I love the wolverine as a wolverine idea

Snacky: Just a wolverine who learned to walk upright!

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Just a wolverine who learned to walk upright!

*chokes*

*dies*

and that he's mind-controlled them all for the better parts of their lives and everything they think is free will and choice is just Xavier playing with them like they were Barbie dolls

You've read X-Manson, right?

I have read it! I'm just afraid it's actually going to become canon at this point.

is that a comic or by that guy called Dr. Bedlam? Because I've read the second!

The one by Dr. Benway, yeah. I ...really hope that never makes it into the comics, even as an Elseworlds. *shudders*

Benway, Bedlam, they both go Be!

Oh my god, speaking of him and that story, there WAS a Marvel miniseries heavily along those lines, but with the whole universe all wrong and gross.

He was the top comment to the S_D post going 'I really liked this!'

Somehow that does not surprise me.

I don't think his username would have even triggered for me if it hadn't been *so similar* to what he wrote.

...does Marvel even care about their characters anymore? Wow.

I know, it's rather appalling.

LOL! Though I would totally read a fic about evil!Prof X who made them mutants and then mind-controlled them. XD

Also the Wolverine thing, the first thing it made me think of is One Piece. In One Piece, there are these fruits that people eat that give them various powers. For example, the main character ate a fruit called the Rubber Rubber Fruit that made his body rubber. But one of the characters is a (now-sentient) reindeer who happened to eat a fruit that was called the Human Human Fruit that made him partially humanoid. XD

So basically this made me want a One Piece/Wolverine crossover. -_-;;;

So then you want to read this:

X-Manson

I don't think he actually made them mutants in this, but he definitely was evil and controlled them all. There's no warnings on the fic, but basically imagine ALL THE WARNINGS.

But one of the characters is a (now-sentient) reindeer who happened to eat a fruit that was called the Human Human Fruit that made him partially humanoid. XD

Omg, that is not what I was expecting from a sentient reindeer, but he is so cute. :D

So basically this made me want a One Piece/Wolverine crossover. -_-;;;

Haha, that would be a fun crossover! Imagine if the X-Men, with their powers, ate some of the fruit and everything went really weird.

Is the fic any good?

And yes, Chopper is cutest reindeer! Though he can also transform into more muscled versions which are less cute (but his default form is the one pictured).

Bear in mind, I haven't read it in a long time, but I thought it was pretty good. I remember a few grammar and technical issues, but the concept was really unique at the time (about 12 years ago), and it was a creative execution of the idea.